Q&A With Adrian Fontes, Arizona Secretary of State
Sturm College of Law alum reflects on his path to politics and the state of elections
Fontes at the U.S.-Mexico border on July 4, 2023, in his hometown of Nogales, Ariz., where he served as grand marshal.
This article is from the fall 2023 issue of the University of听Denver Magazine. Please visit the听听for additional content.
The job of a county recorder or even a secretary of state used to be something that most people didn鈥檛 know or think much about. But that has dramatically changed in recent years, with the rise in election fraud claims and investigations throughout the country. How elections are run at the local and state levels has taken on a supersized role in the political process鈥攁nd those who run them have become the subject of unprecedented scrutiny.听
Adrian Fontes (JD 鈥00) knows this better than just about anyone. In 2016, the Sturm College of Law grad was elected county recorder of Maricopa County in Arizona鈥攖he state鈥檚 largest鈥攁nd oversaw the hotly contested 2020 election. In 2022, he was elected the 21st secretary of state of Arizona.
91桃色 Magazine talked with Secretary Fontes about his path to politics and the state of elections in Arizona and beyond.听
Tell us about your background.
I grew up in Nogales, Arizona. My family has been in Arizona for more than 300 years, since before Arizona was a state. They worked on the railroad for generations. Nogales was a good place to grow up. Many people don鈥檛 realize that it鈥檚 a major point of entry for the U.S., so there are a lot of folks from around the world who grow up there. After high school, I served in the Marine Corps for four years and then went to Arizona State University and got a degree in communications. Then, I came to 91桃色 for law school. I picked 91桃色 because I wanted to get away from Arizona, and the programs were consistent with what I wanted: water law and a strong clinical program.
How was your law school experience?
I enjoyed meeting people from around the country, getting to know them, watching them do their thing after graduation. I鈥檓 still friends with many of them today. But law school was challenging鈥攊n the Marine Corps, I was nominated for meritorious commission, and I graduated from ASU with honors, so it was really humbling to suddenly be among a whole bunch of equals who also had excelled wherever they came from. I really enjoyed the professors I had鈥擱oberto Corrado, Jan Laitos, Ved Nanda鈥攁 wonderful human being鈥擲teve Winokur, who made a very deep impression on me, and of course Lucy Marsh. It was through contacts at 91桃色 that I ended up interning at the Denver District Attorney鈥檚 Office.
In addition to the Denver District Attorney鈥檚 Office, you worked for the Maricopa County Attorney鈥檚 Office and the Arizona Attorney General鈥檚 Office. What appealed to you about that work?
I had been planning to go into water law, environmental work, but once I got the internship in the Denver DA鈥檚 office, I got the bug. I was energized by the idea of seeking truth and pursuing justice but also by the pace and the process of the work. My first day on the job, I remember a guy I worked with telling me about 鈥渢he talker,鈥 the voice in your head that never stops. I thought he was crazy, but that first year, after sitting through a few trials, my talker started talking鈥攁nd it hasn鈥檛 shut up since.听听听听
It鈥檚 like your brain is constantly processing鈥攐n any given case, you鈥檙e thinking, is this the right case to bring, is there jurisdiction, could there be damages, what are the possible defenses, what are the possible angles for the prosecution, what are we going to use if we end up in trial, what is discovery going to look like, what are my questions going to look like, how is this witness, that witness, this piece of evidence, that piece of evidence, and it goes on and on. It鈥檚 exhausting and exhilarating at the same time.
I think that鈥檚 why so many attorneys or legally trained folks end up in politics. The issues are massive and complex, there鈥檚 a lot of players, a lot of pieces of the puzzle, and you鈥檙e not just doing some simple task every day. It鈥檚 a new challenge all the time鈥攁nd we鈥檙e good at solving problems.
Why did you decide to get into politics?
I鈥檝e always been interested in it. My grandfather was the mayor of Nogales; he got elected on my 9th birthday, in fact. One of the things he told me back then was, if you ever decide to run for office, half of the people are going to hate you and the other half won鈥檛 care鈥攖hose are the odds you鈥檙e going to be running against. If you鈥檙e willing to face that, go for it.
I never anticipated that I would run for office. Then, in 2016, when I saw so many people not being able to vote in Maricopa County鈥攐r having to wait in four- or five-hour-long lines, I got angry and decided to run for county recorder. And then I won. I found myself much like Robert Redford at the end of 鈥淭he Candidate,鈥 when he鈥檚 standing there, and he鈥檚 like, 鈥淣ow what?鈥 I had to learn how to be an election administration expert. There are very few of us, and every jurisdiction does it a little differently. It was the epitome of on-the-job training.
You lost your reelection bid in 2020 and decided to run for secretary of state in 2022. What led you to that decision?
January 6.It was like a call to duty, and secretary of state was the next natural step. I was qualified and had election administration experience. I鈥檓 the first county election administration to become secretary of state in Arizona since the early 80s. The office was due to have someone in it with my background.
What are your goals as secretary of state?
My short-term goal was to build an all-star team of folks from Arizona that really know what we need to do and are able to make the right decisions and run the office well, and we鈥檝e done that. I鈥檓 very proud of the team I鈥檝e built.
Long term, we need to do everything we can to help the counties. The people in our 15 counties are the ones who actually run the elections. They deserve as much support as this office can possibly give and then a little bit more. We鈥檙e in a bit of a crisis鈥12 out of our 15 counties have in the last couple of years lost a senior elections official, which can be incredibly impactful, especially for the smaller offices. We鈥檝e got to provide that support where we can, and I think we鈥檙e geared up for it.
You鈥檝e experienced firsthand the harassment that can come with being an election official, and in 2021, you testified before Congress about your experiences. Is enough being done to protect election officials?
While all the political noise is going on, election officials are the ones keeping our democracy alive. For these folks to suffer threats and harassment鈥攑lus the lack of funding and the second-class bureaucrat status that they have鈥攊t really tells us where we prioritize election administration, and that鈥檚 horrible. Without election administration, you don鈥檛 have a democracy. I definitely don鈥檛 think folks have been paying enough attention to that.
And we have to win this fight. The people who harass election officials and deny election results do not care who they hurt. It鈥檚 like a sport to them. That鈥檚 something new and terrifying, and we can鈥檛 back down. That鈥檚 why I testified before Congress鈥攖o raise awareness and help get the support that鈥檚 needed. 听
You have collaborated with Stephen Richer, the Republican Maricopa County recorder who defeated you in 2020, on election integrity issues. Can you talk about that partnership?
My relationship with Stephen represents what America is supposed to be. He and I disagree on a lot of things, but we agree on a lot more. He and I don鈥檛 have to be best friends鈥攚e鈥檙e not鈥攁nd we don鈥檛 have to agree on everything鈥攚e don鈥檛鈥攂ut that doesn鈥檛 mean we can鈥檛 get along, that doesn鈥檛 mean we can鈥檛 work together for the benefit of other people. When we say diversity is our strength as Americans, we should be talking about diversity of ideas. And the way we make decisions when we have diverse ideas is through this process we call elections.
Are you optimistic about the future of elections and election workers?
Most people in public office are of good faith and good character. We need to humanize the [election] process a little more, tell the individual stories a little better. It鈥檚 easy to criticize the anonymous, amorphous bureaucracy and forget that these are human beings doing this stuff.听听
A lot of people used to take elections administration for granted and didn鈥檛 understand any of it at all. What has come out of the election denialist movement is that a lot more people are paying attention, and the more they learn, the more they understand that it鈥檚 complicated, and most jurisdictions do it pretty darn well. People in this field don鈥檛 mind scrutiny as long as it鈥檚 fair. We don鈥檛 mind people looking over our shoulders as long as it doesn鈥檛 get in the way of the work鈥攂ecause we鈥檝e got a lot of work to do.

